May 23 2008
SUSPICIOUS ACTIVITY AT ULTIMATE BET AND ABSOLUTE POKER
Welcome to the Donkey Show.
Can someone tell me why People still continue to play on Ultimate Bet and Absolute Poker?
They are owned by the same Company and it was already Proven that Absolute Poker Had super User accounts and ALLOWED THE CHEATING TO GO ON. I have Also Heard Annie Duke Is now running Ultimate Bet and that is enough reason not to play there to support that Nasty Skank of a Broad.
SUSPICIOUS ACTIVITY AT ULTIMATE BET
It has been one hundred fifty days since allegations about suspicious activity in the high stakes no limit games on Ultimate were first made public in this thread in the High Stakes No Limit forum (referred to as ‘HSNL’ from this point) on twoplustwo.com.
Several million dollars were stolen and the evidence in the HSNL thread indicates very strongly that:
- Ultimate has known about the cheating for at least nine months.
- Ultimate knew about but did not make any attempt to acknowledge the cheating before it was exposed on 2+2.
- People who worked for Ultimate facilitated the cheating.
- Ultimate actively took steps to cover up these crimes and thwart the investigation of this scandal.
Additionally:
- Ultimate did not make any public statements or acknowledge that cheating had occurred until March 6th, 2008, three full months after the crimes became public.
- Ultimate has not reached out to any of the players who were stolen from (many of whom still don’t know that they were cheated). When players read the HSNL thread, discover that they have been cheated and attempt to contact Ultimate, they’re forced to wait several days for an email response, only to be told that Ultimate is ‘looking into the allegations.’
- Ultimate has not offered to reimburse any of the victims of the theft.
Assuming a normal distribution of win rates, the chance that NioNio’s results could be explained by variance is 1:131,236,127,000,000,000,000,000.
Expressed another way, 1:131,236,127,000,000,000,000,000 is about the same as winning the powerball jackpot three days in a row.
“By January of 2008, many high stakes no limit hold’em players on Ultimate had become highly suspicious of the playing styles and win rates of some players on the site.
Investigating the hands that these players played showed that they saw as many flops and turns as possible, they called bluffs with incredibly weak holdings, and they seemingly never lost. These players were employing what should be a losing strategy and they were playing in the highest stakes games on Ultimate, yet they showed the highest win rates of anybody playing any poker game anywhere in the world (other than the Absolute Poker cheaters).
Their abnormal playing style of seeing many flops and turns along with their regularly calling river bets with extremely marginal holdings at an alarming rate of success, indicated a possibility that these players, like the players in the Absolute Poker scandal, had the ability to see their opponents hidden hole cards.
Ultimate was informed about this problem within twenty-four hours of the creation of the HSNL thread on January 8th, 2008. The Kahnawake gaming Commission was notified soon thereafter.”
Now I haven’t played at Ultimate Bet or Absolute In quite along time. Why cause their Tourneys Suck. Absolute never had a good tourney schedule for a Low Limit guy like myself but Ultimate Bet used to. Why They Nuked their tourney schedule like they did no on knows.
interesting tidbit from the 2+2 thread.
“As many of you know, when you cash out of an online poker site, the cash out must first be cleared through the site’s security department. Major withdrawals from new players are examined with additional scrutiny.
It defies reason to believe that a red flag was not raised when a new player began beating the highest stakes games on Ultimate at a win rate that was ten standard deviations over his expectation. But even if Ultimate’s security department was so incompetent as to not investigate NioNio’s account while the cheating was taking place it is virtually impossible that they did not investigate him when he requested to have name changed and cashed out in September 2007 .
It is simply unfathomable that red flag was not raised when NioNio, the most successful Poker player in the history of the world, a guy for whom logging onto Ultimate was like going to an ATM machine… and stealing the whole thing, abruptly decided a couple days after the Absolute Poker scandal became public that he wanted to close his account.
The only rational conclusion is that Ultimate had full knowledge of the cheating as it was taking place and deliberately allowed it to continue just like at their sister site Absolute Poker where the founder of the company was cheating and orchestrating cover-up.
After ‘trambopoline’ and ‘dlpnyc21′ showed beyond any reasonable doubt in the HSNL thread that NioNio was cheating, many more 2+2’ers began compiling their hand histories and searching through www.myPokerintel.com for suspicious accounts.If it was happening with one account why couldn’t it be happening on others? Within a matter of days, posters on 2+2 identified a number of accounts as having highly suspicious activity. They all played the same 60/40/aggressive style that was shared by NioNio and the superuser at Absolute Poker and all stopped playing around September 07, 2007 when the Absolute Poker scandal broke. They also all had had success at a profit rate of several degrees better than the win rates showed by the best players in the world.
These suspicious accounts were:
Flatbroke33, iLike2win, monizzzle, nionio, nopaddles, nymobser, nvtease, sleeplesss, stoned2nite, utakeit2, and whackme44.”
So Ultimate Bet Has some new Player who is KILLING THE GAME and they never seem to look into his play even after they have been notified? or they did look and found nothing wrong.
It is my Opinion that this is the Biggest Problem Facing Online Poker. Sites that are Dishonest or that are Intentionally Letting Cheating go on. I mean If the sites are not looking out for the Players Who is going to.
It really is too Bad that More People Haven’t heard about the Scandals At Ultimate Bet and Absolute Poker cause I would have to believe that No one would play there anymore if they were aware of the situation.
But it seems like people are either Ignorant or Blind to the Fact that the Sites are Allowing Cheaters to play unchecked then Add to the Fact that the Sites when Presented with Evidence Choose to say Nothing is wrong.
BOYCOTT ULTIMATE BET AND ABSOLUTE POKER They Allow Cheating to go on at their sites.
Now I am not saying that There is NO cheating at the Other sites but Pokerstars seems to take it seriously and Full Tilt not so sure. They seem to allow Multi Accounting to go on without much being done about it.
Hope everyone has a Safe Memorial Day Weekend.
Thanks for Visiting the Donkey Show.
Peace
Wwonka69
